Curse

Molock · Dec 31, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Uh yeah.. the bug is still around. People in my guild were doing it yesterday..

Redfeather1975 · Dec 31, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

If a game isn't pay to play, I'm all for sequence breaking if it doesn't involve a glitch.
But if it's a glitch then it should be fixed.

IlikeGW · Dec 31, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by flubber

.there are prolly a few hundred thousand who don't come to guru...go to high-end/sell forums, don't farm..etc..etc.. those end-game greens are prolly the best weaps some can/will get. and to them...they are worth however long it took them to beat the campaign. and now it can be done in what...like 15 min? lol

this is just ... I don't know out of touch with the market? you can buy cheap or find an r9 inscribeable and put whatever bought cheap/found perfect mods you want on it now... this is how inscribeable weps+HM drops have changed the market completely and made greens pretty much obsolete and unwanted. I'd lol if these amulet farming dopes were able to sell anything and they'll probably give up in a day or two with little success selling

Leslie · Dec 31, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

yeah, the endgame greens of all campaigns are pretty much mediocre, both in terms of skin and stats. They were overly common to begin with.

...on a side note, i think Tyria needs some end game greens after Hell's Precipe. Seems only fair since all the others have them!

Sora267 · Dec 31, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

What factors do you think they should base bans over this on?

IMO, they should ban the people charging for it and figure out how to wipe specific outposts from characters, and just do that. Too many people are doing this, and its way more tame then say the duping thing, so I don't think it justifies a perma-ban. The thing is, this would take a way more complex algorithm to trace than say searching for 150+ armbraces on a character.

Lil Mystique · Dec 31, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hello,

I have sent emails to the QA and content programming teams to let them know of this situation, and to provide them the details you have so kindly put in this thread and elsewhere. Those details will be useful as the team tracks down what is causing the bug.

It is now Christmas Eve, and I do not think that it would be reasonable to expect that anyone from the team will be able to address this for at least a few days, perhaps not until January 2nd. I am very sorry for the delay -- I know it's a frustrating bug. But the team has been working hard, and they deserve their Wintersday break. Too, many key team members are traveling to various places for the holidays, so those who might need to be involved in the bug fix may be in a different state... or even on a different continent!

Thank you in advance for your patience as the team resolves the issue. We will continue to review the thread in case other details are provided that help in detecting the cause of the glitch.
__________________
Gaile Gray
Community Relations Manager
ArenaNet
The Guild Wars Site

Now this was in regards to the glitch where the ambassador wouldn't show halls, but it seems Anet is on vacation until Jan 2.

Source: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...90&postcount=6

Neo Nugget · Dec 31, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine

What factors do you think they should base bans over this on?

IMO, they should ban the people charging for it and figure out how to wipe specific outposts from characters, and just do that. Too many people are doing this, and its way more tame then say the duping thing, so I don't think it justifies a perma-ban. The thing is, this would take a way more complex algorithm to trace than say searching for 150+ armbraces on a character.

I don't think this deserves a ban, maybe a day or 2 for the people charging, because it's really easy.......

Lycan Nibbler · Dec 31, 2007, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Lil Mystique

It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:

Now this was in regards to the glitch where the ambassador wouldn't show halls, but it seems Anet is on vacation until Jan 2.

Source: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...90&postcount=6

By which time everyone should have all towns on all maps for all characters. I agree that this needs to be fixed, but judging from the fact that nothing was done about people making a fortune from the last exploit ( the ale farming in pre) - I dont see anyone getting their hands slapped.
Actually, if the problem is about people making gold out of this, then an alternative is to announce it everywhere so people who dont know wont be paying "runners". Just a thought

Sora267 · Dec 31, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

I don't think this deserves a ban, maybe a day or 2 for the people charging, because it's really easy.......

It's not that it's EASY. They're still abusing a glitch, and that's against the EULA. So (I hope not), they're probably going to ban everyone involved in it, even if its temporary.

I'd be all over this and have every outpost in all campaigns on all my characters, but I don't want to miss the Wintersday finale. Decisions, decisions...

Solange · Dec 31, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine

It's not that it's EASY. They're still abusing a glitch, and that's against the EULA.

the glitch was caused by human error by mis programming or checks or whatever

im sure people could have found this out accidently....actually i'm sure thats how it was found out and then friends slowly shard it around

Kakumei · Dec 31, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

Fix it? Sure. Ban? Why? I'm not saying it isn't an exploit, I'm not saying people who are using it aren't really cheating the game and themselves, but it's getting rather close to the end of GW's lifespan. Banning a bunch of people who just want to get to the content that they enjoy in a game at little expense to the playerbase as a whole isn't really going to be a wise move for Anet--those people will likely be very upset, and not purchase/support/give a shit about GW2.

Neo Nugget · Dec 31, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

people weren't banned from the HoS chest run, they called that an exploit.
They tried to fix it before, but couldn't.

People didn't get banned for ferrying to Docks, or Slavers either.

Terraban · Dec 31, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by Solange

the glitch was caused by human error by mis programming or checks or whatever

im sure people could have found this out accidently....actually i'm sure thats how it was found out and then friends slowly shard it around

All glitches are caused by human error at some point.

Zena Starlight · Dec 31, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28

But with this glitch people are making a lot larger profit than just by farming and doing a lot less work.

Gaile Gray · Dec 31, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Steboy93

I think a-net needs to focus on fixing this rather than chasing people with bans for doing it.

That is precisely what the team is doing. On a weekend that is also part of the holiday break.

Our objective is not to punish, but to repair. And I've heard from at least three GW team members who are working hard to do just that. If anyone ultimately gets punished -- either for using the exploit, from promoting or publicizing it, or for profiting from it -- that is truly secondary to closing the loophole as quickly as possible.

Dang, 6am3 Fana71c, that's a great image. I've not see it before. *lol*

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

I don't see why they didn't do an emergency 'remove all ambassadors temporarily' thing. I don't see how they can let this go on this long without doing anything.

I'd like to answer that: Because we thought it was fixed, and because it crept up (in a new form) during a holiday. However, as I mentioned, it's definitely being looked into now, on many levels and by many people.

Thanks to everyone for your patience as we resolve this. If you continue to have concerns, I will be happy to try to address them for you.

Vinraith · Dec 31, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Lil Mystique

It seems that this will not be fixed anytime soon. Gaile posted this in the Dev Tracker Forum:

That's from a week ago. Gaile doesn't post in the dev tracker forum, the dev tracker forum indexes things Gaile posts (usually well after the fact).

† LãwLiþøþ™ † · Dec 31, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Its still going on..everyone in Kamadan is spamming it still..

-Sonata- · Dec 31, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

GW2 is still a long ways away and if certain people are exploiting known bugs I'm already under the assumption they don't give a shit already. If there's bans coming, so be it. If not, so be it. I just want it fixed. If people want to get to areas so bad, play the game, or get the old fashion run.

Those who truly value their accounts do not engage in actions in which they know they're risking a possible ban/suspension. If, in the end, some players are suspended for a certain amount of time, well, maybe it'll be another lesson learned. Then again, maybe not.

† LãwLiþøþ™ † · Dec 31, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

owned. everyone in Kamadan d1 saw it.

Nice job Gaile!

garethporlest18 · Dec 31, 2007, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.

There's been a reason to play Guild Wars in the past..oh 10 months? LOL. Yeah right man.